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Discussion: Mahler: Symphony No. 2 - Zander

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Post by windhoek March 5, 2015 (41 of 47)
I just noticed in the only review posted thus far of this release that the author finds the use of surround channels to be "unnaturally prominent" - sounds promising after all ;)

Post by rammiepie March 6, 2015 (42 of 47)
windhoek said:

I just noticed in the only review posted thus far of this release that the author finds the use of surround channels to be "unnaturally prominent" - sounds promising after all ;)

Heard the Mahler 2nd last night as fausto wanted to know how I rated the multichannel mix. Well, Derek (windhoek) may have answered our question.

It's not discreet but the surrounds are unmistakably not ambience but more a reinforcement of the fronts.

My argument, if you're going to make the surrounds this prominent why not record the album discreetly in the first place.

I award the Zander M2 an 8 out of 10 for SQ in multichannel.

The Performance was solid and heartfelt and my rating is a 9!

Post by windhoek March 6, 2015 (43 of 47)
Cheers Ralph, it sounds like it's a good performance regardless and a small but noticeable step towards a discrete m/c mix. It might not be much, but I'll take :)

Post by fausto K March 6, 2015 (44 of 47)
rammiepie said:

Heard the Mahler 2nd last night as fausto wanted to know how I rated the multichannel mix. Well, Derek (windhoek) may have answered our question.

It's not discreet but the surrounds are unmistakably not ambience but more a reinforcement of the fronts.

My argument, if you're going to make the surrounds this prominent why not record the album discreetly in the first place.

I award the Zander M2 an 8 out of 10 for SQ in multichannel.

The Performance was solid and heartfelt and my rating is a 9!

thanks for that!

Post by Euell Neverno March 6, 2015 (45 of 47)
rammiepie said:

Heard the Mahler 2nd last night as fausto wanted to know how I rated the multichannel mix. Well, Derek (windhoek) may have answered our question.

It's not discreet but the surrounds are unmistakably not ambience but more a reinforcement of the fronts.

My argument, if you're going to make the surrounds this prominent why not record the album discreetly in the first place.

I award the Zander M2 an 8 out of 10 for SQ in multichannel.

The Performance was solid and heartfelt and my rating is a 9!

Thanks for the "review." Will try this one (in stereo).

Post by windhoek March 6, 2015 (46 of 47)
I'm ripping the discs right now for playback from my Mac Mini although I just couldn't help play a snippet (a 7 minute snippet!) to hear how discrete the mix was and as Ralph says, it's certainly more than ambient although not full on discrete ala Tomita. Regardless, it sounds like a performance/recording I will enjoy. Will update later...

Post by windhoek March 6, 2015 (47 of 47)
I just finished listening to the m/c mix (in 4.0 as per my speaker setup) and although it's certainly more discrete than most classical surround mixes, where ambiance is the standard approach, it's only more so by a tad. If I had to rate the dynamic of the m/c mix, I'd give it 3/10 - not quite matching the 10/10 of Tomita's Planets (Ultimate Edition), but an improvement on 1/10 ambient surround mixes nevertheless.

What I can say for sure though is I really enjoyed the performance/recording! I haven't listened to the stereo version so can't compare it to that, but compared to the two other stereo-only versions I have (Mehta BPO and Michael Tilson Thomas), I think Zander's is the performance I've enjoyed most. It might well be even if the ears don't detect a great deal of discrete channel dynamics, my emotive self does because I'm struggling to find reasons to say it isn't the best version I've heard to date. For me, it's a winner!

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